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Rear arches!!!!

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26Rear arches!!!! - Page 2 Empty Re: Rear arches!!!! 7th June 2015, 3:33 pm

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I have nothing my end mate ...


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27Rear arches!!!! - Page 2 Empty Re: Rear arches!!!! 7th June 2015, 5:28 pm

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28Rear arches!!!! - Page 2 Empty Re: Rear arches!!!! 7th June 2015, 6:39 pm

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Yeah mate ... drop me your number in pm ...


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29Rear arches!!!! - Page 2 Empty Re: Rear arches!!!! 7th June 2015, 9:53 pm

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30Rear arches!!!! - Page 2 Empty Re: Rear arches!!!! 7th June 2015, 9:53 pm

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31Rear arches!!!! - Page 2 Empty Re: Rear arches!!!! 7th June 2015, 9:58 pm

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They really arent that bad mate ....


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32Rear arches!!!! - Page 2 Empty Re: Rear arches!!!! 7th June 2015, 10:44 pm

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As Leighton said they don't look too bad if you dremel the rust out u should be able to get away with a wee bit of filler of fibreglass but before doing that get rid of surface rust and genolite it will turn the rust to solid metal again then filler sand and spray it up

33Rear arches!!!! - Page 2 Empty Re: Rear arches!!!! 8th June 2015, 7:44 am

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@nomad wrote:Mig welder .... pref anything from 180 amps and above .... as the lower amp machines tend to give poorer weld so it just looks like birdshit  lol ....  the 230 en turbo is a good machine sealey mig 180 is ok also  ... look at duty cycles as the cheaper machines  tend to have lower duty cycles wich means  you cant use it for long at higher amps ... beacuase your only tack welding the panel on it doesnt require to much skill  the skill is in cutting the rust out and cutting the panel to the correct size ... before you start .... tack welding is as it sounds  you are litteraly just placing a blob of weld to fuse the old metal to the new metal  anybody can hold the trigger on the gun and count 3 seconds  then move onto the next tack   ... welds can be ground down  too so its nothing to daunting  if it is abit ropey looking ... its all in the prep really like most things .... you got any pics of your arches  now ????

You make it sound so easy Laughing gives me confidence to hack my car up too Laughing

34Rear arches!!!! - Page 2 Empty Re: Rear arches!!!! 8th June 2015, 12:26 pm

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Pictures don't tell the story lol just don't want to do it again

35Rear arches!!!! - Page 2 Empty Re: Rear arches!!!! 8th June 2015, 12:33 pm

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No your right dan ... cut it out .... i just meant i was expecting it to be worse alot worse ..as from you desrcibed ...


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36Rear arches!!!! - Page 2 Empty Re: Rear arches!!!! 8th June 2015, 12:34 pm

Mr B

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^ don't look that good to me. no way I would fibreglass that. for sure the inner arch & sill end to arch will be needing some level of work. even if all cut out & welded if pre weld & pre filler treatment not good rust will be back in couple of years due to bare steel edges in the repair & porous coatings .
Most bodyshops are not that good really so worth be fussy on who does the work if planning keep your car for long term.
Like mr nomad says the welding is not that hard but some experience helps. good panel prep & filler work & knowing best paint products to use, panel sealer etc is what makes the job a good one.

37Rear arches!!!! - Page 2 Empty Re: Rear arches!!!! 8th June 2015, 9:34 pm

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No rust looks good but that is not that bad at all,

Do we have any information on decent panel sealers etc.? I know people use lots of different stuff but it would be good to get a list of some of the most popular seam sealers, fillers, underseal, primers, etc. etc. and also info on welders, and good equipment such as joggler


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38Rear arches!!!! - Page 2 Empty Re: Rear arches!!!! 8th June 2015, 10:05 pm

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Thats a very good idea ... as there is lots of stuff on the market ... some are no more than over priced gimmiks so a list would be a good idea maybe more from use of experiance of whats what ...


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39Rear arches!!!! - Page 2 Empty Re: Rear arches!!!! 14th July 2015, 8:43 pm

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They have arrived!!!!!!!

40Rear arches!!!! - Page 2 Empty Re: Rear arches!!!! 14th July 2015, 8:50 pm

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Crack out the grinder Laughing


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41Rear arches!!!! - Page 2 Empty Re: Rear arches!!!! 14th July 2015, 9:10 pm

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@shroom wrote:No rust looks good but that is not that bad at all,

Do we have any information on decent panel sealers etc.? I know people use lots of different stuff but it would be good to get a list of some of the most popular seam sealers, fillers, underseal, primers, etc. etc. and also info on welders, and good equipment such as joggler

I use Upol tiger seal or Starchem Seam sealer, cost wise the upol is around £12 a tube and starchem I get from my local paint shop around £7.  I find the Starchem one much better than upol in terms of applying.  In colder months I tend to put the tube in warm water, easier to apply.  For a smoother finish, dip your finger in some celly thinner.

Looks a bit messy but once painted look really smooth

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Used it around the rear light cluster, and cant really tell its there now

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It does contain isocyanates so use in a well ventilated area, wear mask etc

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