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Tomei block adaptor

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1Tomei block adaptor Empty Tomei block adaptor Fri Oct 03, 2014 1:25 am

Jammin

Jammin

Hi Guys,

Does anyone know if the Tomei N2 Super Oil Block Adaptor will fit the R?
i need to fit my cooler, and i'll relocate the filter whilst at it, and it looks the neatest way, and comes with 2 outputs so i can fit new oil temp and pressure gauges.
Plus it tidies it up back there and eliminates having a sandwich plate.
There was an Oz guy seelling something similar, and GTiR specific, on one of the other forums a few years ago i think but they must all be long gone.
Without removing the standard housing i have no idea, so was hoping one of you gurus out there might know.
Bobby, any ideas?

Heres a link to it on Nengun....

www.nengun.com/tomei/n2-oil-block


Cheers

Ben

2Tomei block adaptor Empty Re: Tomei block adaptor Fri Oct 03, 2014 2:17 am

Mr B

Mr B
gtir technician
gtir technician

That basically same concept & inspiration of the Oz made ones. 
The one in your link won't work on the 54c block.

3Tomei block adaptor Empty Re: Tomei block adaptor Fri Oct 03, 2014 7:42 am

gtir_woody

gtir_woody
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Far as I know they have all gone. I haven't seen anyone selling one in awhile. If you hunt one down I know there were a couple of slightly different versions.

4Tomei block adaptor Empty Re: Tomei block adaptor Fri Oct 03, 2014 7:57 am

johnny gtir

johnny gtir
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I can take pic of my one if it helps

5Tomei block adaptor Empty Re: Tomei block adaptor Fri Oct 03, 2014 8:48 am

nomad

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Trust you to have one johnny ... Laughing


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6Tomei block adaptor Empty Re: Tomei block adaptor Fri Oct 03, 2014 8:55 am

johnny gtir

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ner ner Fine i wont try and help members ha ha. You have watsapp mr L

7Tomei block adaptor Empty Re: Tomei block adaptor Fri Oct 03, 2014 9:00 am

gtir_woody

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Haha well I know mine is the first series and one of the fittings sits closer to the power steering bracket, pretty sure that's something that changed later on

8Tomei block adaptor Empty Re: Tomei block adaptor Fri Oct 03, 2014 9:38 am

GTI-R US

GTI-R US
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Il take a pic of the one I have on the rashiteen engine tomorrow
The oe oil cooler is deleted, well part of it anyway

Don't fit an oil filter relocation kit they are really bad


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9Tomei block adaptor Empty Re: Tomei block adaptor Fri Oct 03, 2014 10:02 am

gtir_woody

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Really bob? Because of oil preasure drop? I've seen them mounted in pretty stupid spots though, I'd hate for a seal to burst and spray oil all over a hot manifold.

10Tomei block adaptor Empty Re: Tomei block adaptor Fri Oct 03, 2014 5:02 pm

johnny gtir

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Come on leighton say it trust bob and the rasheen to have one Laughing

11Tomei block adaptor Empty Re: Tomei block adaptor Fri Oct 03, 2014 7:14 pm

nomad

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Yeah but the rasheen is a top qaulity car and bob is a hoarder so i would expect him to have one moonie


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12Tomei block adaptor Empty Re: Tomei block adaptor Fri Oct 03, 2014 7:16 pm

johnny gtir

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Piss off you. I used to like you ha ha reckon my stocks are not far behind his

13Tomei block adaptor Empty Re: Tomei block adaptor Fri Oct 03, 2014 8:33 pm

GTI-R US

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yeah your not far wrong there johnny you are the northern branch gti-waeey r-us lol


yes youll get oil pressure drop from cold start and in time that will destroy your engine. also as you rightly say........people put them in stupid locations where there can be a real fire risk, plus with the extra length of more braided lines in tight restricted places you icrease the risk of fractured pipes through chaffing plus electrical shorts from many multiplugs and other electrical components
so in short they are a very bad idea and serve no real purpose

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14Tomei block adaptor Empty Re: Tomei block adaptor Fri Oct 03, 2014 9:01 pm

Jammin

Jammin

Thanks guys,
OK, so what would you guys reccomend for oil cooler fitting? Just use a mocal sandwich plate, or a Greddy?
Also, if using something like the Tomei adaptor, or the Oz made GTiR specific version, wouldnt you have to relocate the filter, as it doesnt mount on the adaptor and you remove the standard part?
Johnny, if you have one fitted on your car, how have you mounted your filter. Yes a pic would be good.
Thanks.
Ben

15Tomei block adaptor Empty Re: Tomei block adaptor Fri Oct 03, 2014 9:07 pm

GTI-R US

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give me half hour ben and il put a pic up for you of what ive got on mine


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16Tomei block adaptor Empty Re: Tomei block adaptor Fri Oct 03, 2014 10:54 pm

Jammin

Jammin

Great, thanks Bob.
Also, i need to pop down and see you very soon.
Are you open on Weekends for a visit?
My passenger side window is broken. Ive take the door card off and can see the cable has snapped Shocked
Anything you can sort out for me whilst i wait?
Also the speedo is a it erratic at times. not a major problem as i rounghly know what speed im doing by revs, but always get a bit worried when going through speed cams.
Oh and need a battery box also, if you anything nice and good for on track, not sure if they come MSA approved.

Cheers

Ben

17Tomei block adaptor Empty Re: Tomei block adaptor Fri Oct 03, 2014 11:13 pm

Mr B

Mr B
gtir technician
gtir technician

When using adaptor just use short pipe run & keep filter low near original location.
Best & easy option for most is just use original filter housing, quality filter & quality thermostat oil cooler sandwich adaptor. The mocal VW golf plates fit R fine.
With limited sources of getting the Oz style adaptor & cost/hassle for no real major benefit is deciding factor for most.

18Tomei block adaptor Empty Re: Tomei block adaptor Fri Oct 03, 2014 11:19 pm

nomad

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Wich vw golf plate mr b ????


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19Tomei block adaptor Empty Re: Tomei block adaptor Fri Oct 03, 2014 11:41 pm

ducie54

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If the system is built correctly there should be no issues. I've seen setups were they use only dash 8 lines and sharp angled fittings. Of course there would be pressure drop.

Using dash 10 hose, full flow fittings with a good quality oil cooler you want have a drama. Btw any oil pressure sensor should be mount after the oil filter and oil cooler.

20Tomei block adaptor Empty Re: Tomei block adaptor Sat Oct 04, 2014 12:01 am

GTI-R US

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^^^
think were on different pages here im talking about the oil filter relocation kits you see on ebay ect, not talking about oil cooler as nothing wrong with those if fitted correctly


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21Tomei block adaptor Empty Re: Tomei block adaptor Sat Oct 04, 2014 12:51 am

Mr B

Mr B
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nomad wrote:Wich vw golf plate mr b ????
It's the Mocal MLR.SRK1, OTSP1 3/4"UNF filter thread.
Fits loads of VW's including Golf GTI, Punto & also I think fits a few Toyota's such as MR2
Main reason for knowing this is you can find them much cheaper (did a few years back anyway) for a Golf compared to a GTiR when the part is 100% the same :-S

22Tomei block adaptor Empty Re: Tomei block adaptor Sat Oct 04, 2014 3:35 am

ducie54

ducie54

GTI-R US wrote:^^^
think were on different pages here im talking about the oil filter relocation kits you see on ebay ect, not talking about oil cooler as nothing wrong with those if fitted correctly

You talked about pressure drop if I'm not mistaken. A remote filter block would have to be a really bad design to causes a pressure drop. As Ben mentioned about fitting his oil cooler and pressure sensors I'd thought I'd share some advice on those too. Just because others have had bad experiences due to poor setup shouldn't mean that it's not recommended.

23Tomei block adaptor Empty Re: Tomei block adaptor Sat Oct 04, 2014 8:47 am

GTI-R US

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Well I've seen 4 cars fitted with these over the years and all have suffered pressure loss on cold start up including one I had fitted to my own car, I removed it and problem solved
The pump is not designed to build pressure that quickly with the extra lines and so forth so we will have to disagree on this one.
and besides what is the point? absolute waste of time other than making the oil filter slightly easier to change


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General Servicing, Mots, tyre fitting
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24Tomei block adaptor Empty Re: Tomei block adaptor Sat Oct 04, 2014 9:46 am

ducie54

ducie54

Strange as the gtir oil pump has larger oil pump gears than all but the Sr20ve series motors. Larger surface area of filter can also be advantageous along with easy reach.

For those that are after a remote oil block Mazworx has made them for awhile now http://www.mazworx.com/store/p/134-Mazworx-SR20DET-GTi-R-Oil-Block-Adapter.aspx

25Tomei block adaptor Empty Re: Tomei block adaptor Sat Oct 04, 2014 3:26 pm

gtir_woody

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I didn't know mazworx did one. I'm going to get rid of my gtiroz one. I much prefer that design over using 90 fittings. Not sure if there would be a difference functionally though?

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