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Gtir Motorsport club » Tech room » Help and Advice » New Clutch Needed, Organic Or Fast Road?

New Clutch Needed, Organic Or Fast Road?

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Welling_AL
Gaz GTiR
GTI-R US
Digitalfaze
Viper911
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1New Clutch Needed, Organic Or Fast Road? Empty New Clutch Needed, Organic Or Fast Road? 16th September 2013, 11:20 am

Viper911

Viper911

Clutch went on the R this morning right in the middle of rush hour traffic.

Organic at £150, fast road at £250, 6 piece paddle clutch at £389. Fast road does up to 400bhp i'm told however does anyone know what the organic Exedy does up to?

2New Clutch Needed, Organic Or Fast Road? Empty Re: New Clutch Needed, Organic Or Fast Road? 16th September 2013, 1:06 pm

Digitalfaze

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sounds a bit cheap for a clutch, my exedy organic was near £300 and that was a stage 1 so just a standard replacement.

but i think the exedy organic can handle 1bar loop and not much else in terms of power.

if its exedy dont buy from ebay as exedy dont stock original clutches to ebay shops

http://www.avaloncreative.co.uk

3New Clutch Needed, Organic Or Fast Road? Empty Re: New Clutch Needed, Organic Or Fast Road? 16th September 2013, 2:05 pm

Viper911

Viper911

Digitalfaze wrote:sounds a bit cheap for a clutch, my exedy organic was near £300 and that was a stage 1 so just a standard replacement.

but i think the exedy organic can handle 1bar loop and not much else in terms of power.

if its exedy dont buy from ebay as exedy dont stock original clutches to ebay shops
Heres the link to the ebay auction lol

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NISSAN-PULSAR-GTIR-ORGANIC-EXEDY-CLUTCH-KIT-/260694336437?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item3cb297e3b5

Could be liquidated stock then if Exedy dont supply Ebay shops?

4New Clutch Needed, Organic Or Fast Road? Empty Re: New Clutch Needed, Organic Or Fast Road? 16th September 2013, 2:20 pm

GTI-R US

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you get exactly what you pay for with clutches, one thing where scrimping deffo isn't the best option
ive got a single plate clutch / flywheel combo which will take 400bhp easily but it certainly isn't going to be cheap!

http://www.gti-r-us.co.uk www.force500.com

5New Clutch Needed, Organic Or Fast Road? Empty Re: New Clutch Needed, Organic Or Fast Road? 16th September 2013, 3:20 pm

Digitalfaze

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personally id stay away from that clutch, looks nothing like the one i have, that ebay looks crap quality if that is the actual clutch in the image,  exedy are faked on ebay alot, i done alot of research before buying mine which i got from a registered retailer.

As bob mentions clutch is one thing you dont wanna scrimp on as that job is a pain in the a**

this is my clutch i purchased and you can see straight away the difference in quality.

New Clutch Needed, Organic Or Fast Road? 992f0a42

http://www.avaloncreative.co.uk

6New Clutch Needed, Organic Or Fast Road? Empty Re: New Clutch Needed, Organic Or Fast Road? 16th September 2013, 3:27 pm

Gaz GTiR

Gaz GTiR

Yeh becarfull with exedy, there are a lot of fakes knocking about. The same with HKS products. If you go for exedy buy from a main dealer so you know its genuine

7New Clutch Needed, Organic Or Fast Road? Empty Re: New Clutch Needed, Organic Or Fast Road? 16th September 2013, 3:29 pm

Digitalfaze

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on another note this is the sellers small print, also forums bring up alot of info about them id stay away from that company

"NOTE: There have been recent attempts to imitate Techniclutches distinct branding by using possibly lesser quality clutches in a similar colour scheme.
Please be aware that this is a genuine Techniclutch and you will be receiving the unit directly from the Techniclutch warehouse. Complete Techniclutch clutch assemblies carry a 4 year/ 40,000 mile warranty against genuine manufacturing defects in accordance with the Techniclutch Terms and Conditions of Sale.
Picture For iIlustration purpose only, you will be supplied with the correct kit for your vehicle."

http://www.lancerregister.com/showthread.php?t=228142

http://www.avaloncreative.co.uk

8New Clutch Needed, Organic Or Fast Road? Empty Re: New Clutch Needed, Organic Or Fast Road? 16th September 2013, 3:38 pm

Welling_AL

Welling_AL

Just to add a varying comment to this post - you asked which clutch from a list of Organic / Fast Road / Paddle - not sure what kind of power you run or plan to run but for under 400bhp - I have had an AP Fast Road Clutch for many years in my R and have been very happy with it. Can't remember cost but it has performed very well after a fair few launches at Pod and general fast road use.
Not a great help but something to reference whilst considering options.
AL.

9New Clutch Needed, Organic Or Fast Road? Empty Re: New Clutch Needed, Organic Or Fast Road? 16th September 2013, 4:39 pm

Gaz GTiR

Gaz GTiR

As AL says about the AP clutch. Im also running a AP 4 Paddle & it takes some abuse & isn't that bad for road use. Don't get me wrong it is a little snatchy being a paddle clutch but ive driven a lot worse where there either on or off!

But a good clutch imo

10New Clutch Needed, Organic Or Fast Road? Empty Re: New Clutch Needed, Organic Or Fast Road? 16th September 2013, 5:08 pm

Viper911

Viper911

Might stick to fast road then, tho paddle clutch might be an option.

Will wait to see what garage says but hoping 500 will take care of it, not inc labour obv.

Cheers for the advice guys


11New Clutch Needed, Organic Or Fast Road? Empty Re: New Clutch Needed, Organic Or Fast Road? 16th September 2013, 5:39 pm

GTI-R US

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techniclutch are the worst clutches on the market and from my own experience and of others too the worst customer service when they explode and centre plate breaks free lol

ap clutches are made by daiken who make exedy, good bits of kit, but without a doubt helix are the best for mediocre power upto around 420bhp

http://www.gti-r-us.co.uk www.force500.com

12New Clutch Needed, Organic Or Fast Road? Empty Re: New Clutch Needed, Organic Or Fast Road? 16th September 2013, 5:45 pm

GTIR James



Agree. Techniclutch are shite. I had one in my old 2.0l zetec (150 bhp) & it slipped from new. Would never have another.

13New Clutch Needed, Organic Or Fast Road? Empty Re: New Clutch Needed, Organic Or Fast Road? 16th September 2013, 5:48 pm

Digitalfaze

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Viper911 wrote:Might stick to fast road then, tho paddle clutch might be an option.

Will wait to see what garage says but hoping 500 will take care of it, not inc labour obv.

Cheers for the advice guys

500 will get you a helix clutch and make sure the garage knows whats hes doing or could end up with a hefty bill on the labour side as its a long job.


http://www.avaloncreative.co.uk

14New Clutch Needed, Organic Or Fast Road? Empty Re: New Clutch Needed, Organic Or Fast Road? 16th September 2013, 5:52 pm

pulsarmoley

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GTI-R US wrote:techniclutch are the worst clutches on the market and from my own experience and of others too the worst customer service when they explode and centre plate breaks free lol

ap clutches are made by daiken who make exedy, good bits of kit, but without a doubt helix are the best for mediocre power upto around 420bhp
+1 Ive got a Techniclutch in mine which I got from eBay about 5 years ago. It had the centre plate break about 15 months later and they were dicks to try and get a replacement under warranty. Did eventually and the replacement was slightly different/stronger and been ok so far but think it'll need replacing shortly with an ap or helix. Think it only lasted this long as I'm only running bit more than standard HP.

15New Clutch Needed, Organic Or Fast Road? Empty Re: New Clutch Needed, Organic Or Fast Road? 16th September 2013, 6:08 pm

Mr B

Mr B
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Similar thread here:
http://www.gtir-motorsport-club.com/t1415-what-clutch
I'd go organic if mainly on road use & either a Helix or perhaps stage 2 or 3 kit from Fusion competition clutch brand if think Helix not up to it ...
Not cheap but if cheap you will be doing it twice.
Have a word with Bob as may be a little cheaper or at least get you a good clutch for your money.
Don't skimp out & reinforce the clutch fork too ...

16New Clutch Needed, Organic Or Fast Road? Empty Re: New Clutch Needed, Organic Or Fast Road? 16th September 2013, 6:15 pm

Viper911

Viper911

Digitalfaze wrote:
Viper911 wrote:Might stick to fast road then, tho paddle clutch might be an option.

Will wait to see what garage says but hoping 500 will take care of it, not inc labour obv.

Cheers for the advice guys

500 will get you a helix clutch and make sure the garage knows whats hes doing or could end up with a hefty bill on the labour side as its a long job.


Hopefully the guys know what theyre doing lol. Ones got a souped up Type R and the other a Skyline so no doubt they have had their own troubles lol

17New Clutch Needed, Organic Or Fast Road? Empty Re: New Clutch Needed, Organic Or Fast Road? 16th September 2013, 6:21 pm

Viper911

Viper911

GTI-R US wrote:you get exactly what you pay for with clutches, one thing where scrimping deffo isn't the best option
ive got a single plate clutch / flywheel combo which will take 400bhp easily but it certainly isn't going to be cheap!
Will be in contact when I hear back from garage, obviously the hi spec 4 pots will have to wait lol

18New Clutch Needed, Organic Or Fast Road? Empty Re: New Clutch Needed, Organic Or Fast Road? 16th September 2013, 6:31 pm

nomad

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Nobodys mentioned  the fusion motorsport clutches ?

19New Clutch Needed, Organic Or Fast Road? Empty Re: New Clutch Needed, Organic Or Fast Road? 16th September 2013, 7:41 pm

Mr B

Mr B
gtir technician
gtir technician

nomad wrote:Nobodys mentioned  the fusion motorsport clutches ?
Last post, page 1
Don't think many people used them on an R hence not much feedback yet. CC are good clutches & have used on in an Evo & would happily try one in a GTiR .

20New Clutch Needed, Organic Or Fast Road? Empty Re: New Clutch Needed, Organic Or Fast Road? 17th September 2013, 8:13 am

Viper911

Viper911

Well, new clutch it is, before possibly a new box but will get clutch first anyway. Mech says if its his car then he would go for Stage 2 which was the intention anyway, I'm assuming a fast road??

Given the posts previously how can I be sure I am buying a genuine part and not a knock off from Ebay?

Is there anywhere else that sells them? Had a look at Demon Tweeks for example and they look a bit dearer, tho at least I have comeback with them.

Looking to order today so help greatly appreciated, Bob if you have any lying around please let me know, ta

21New Clutch Needed, Organic Or Fast Road? Empty Re: New Clutch Needed, Organic Or Fast Road? 17th September 2013, 8:22 am

Digitalfaze

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just buy from a reputable place, funkypower, madmotors, japspeed maybe

http://www.avaloncreative.co.uk

22New Clutch Needed, Organic Or Fast Road? Empty Re: New Clutch Needed, Organic Or Fast Road? 17th September 2013, 8:50 am

Viper911

Viper911

On funkypower and japspeed at the mo however not liking funkypower saying the stage 2 isnt really suitable for daily driving. The car isnt going to be a daily driver, however its not going to be a specific track car either.

Guy says the stage 1 ACT is similar to stage 2 Exedy.

Jeez this is confusing

23New Clutch Needed, Organic Or Fast Road? Empty Re: New Clutch Needed, Organic Or Fast Road? 17th September 2013, 9:12 am

Viper911

Viper911

Kl, we have the following options then

Fusion, stage 2 organic carbon kevlar kit, 400
Japspeed, exedy stage 2 s type paddle clutch, 340

Funkypower advise the exedy paddle isnt really suited to normal driving, can anyone confirm that?

24New Clutch Needed, Organic Or Fast Road? Empty Re: New Clutch Needed, Organic Or Fast Road? 17th September 2013, 9:36 am

Mr B

Mr B
gtir technician
gtir technician

Paddles with sprung hub plate is not the worst type of paddle for road use but some find it ok & some don't, prefer 6 puck plates myself for road use benefit.
I would be inclined to stick with organic as easier on your transmission.
Best choices are Helix or the CC kits, Exedy ok but the Helix is a bit better ...

25New Clutch Needed, Organic Or Fast Road? Empty Re: New Clutch Needed, Organic Or Fast Road? 17th September 2013, 9:48 am

Viper911

Viper911

When you say CC do you mean the Fusion ones?

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