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Stock ECU with High Impedance Injectors

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1Stock ECU with High Impedance Injectors Empty Stock ECU with High Impedance Injectors 15th March 2014, 4:09 am

dnm



I have recently had to buy new injectors the factory injectors were leaking badly.
I still got the factory ECU, car is pretty much standard all round.my daily driver.

Bosch top feed fuel injector ,green top ,Ford racing 440CC
part No: 0280150558

42LBS hr @ 43.5 PSI 440cc/min, Resistance: 14.5 Ohms

was told I need to remove the injector resistor pack.
Is this straight forward?

johnny gtir

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Can i ask why you bought the injectors you did ? 

The  resistor pack is next to the near side strut top just unplugs but not sure what else you need to do

dnm



Hi.
I wasn't able to find stock injectors or suitable low impedance injectors.
so I bought these new Bosch ones.

do I simply unplug the resistor pack or have to bridge it somehow ?

Gl3nnGTIR

Gl3nnGTIR

I have a set of good working order stock injectors, replaced mine for bigger ones hence removal. Pm me if interested, thanks

dnm



thanks for that. I only just bought the new ones, cost $170NZ.
being so old the stock injectors are prone to failure.
Ive already had to change 5 injectors in 2 years.
must have bad luck:(


Gl3nnGTIR

Gl3nnGTIR

Must be bad luck haha, ok well if you get stuck let me know,

dnm



Peter from PLMS Developments in Australia reckons its OK to run High impedance inj. just need to delete the resistor unit.

http://www.plmsdevelopments.com/

dnm



I was kinda rushed in getting the Bosch injectors, its my daily driver and need to get around

johnny gtir

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The resistor pack consist of 5 wires, 4 black, 1 white.
Basically, the ECU drives the 4 injectors from pins 101, 103, 110, 112 (negative pulse), the 4 remaining common wires from the injectors then goto the 4 black wires on the resistor pack. The white wire on the pack then goes to a positive feed.
Hope this helps.

dnm



thanks for the info, will be researching how one goes about bypassing that resistor pack.
why did nissan use those injectors ?
back then they were the best performing type ?


http://performancefuelsystems.com/InjectorCompattibilitywithECUs-TechCorner.htm

johnny gtir

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Resistor pack brings it down to around 5v without it should see 12-14 best of it is low impedance i am sure are more reliable and dont heat the board on ecu.
Someone will hopefully know more than me on this

nomad

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I would of personally just had them cleaned and bought new seals wich are cheap enough ... especially if you had bought 5 before ... as johnny said the resistor pack is located on top of the strut it looks like a oblong silver box ...


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johnny gtir

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I had my first set sorted as above new seals pintle  caps and ultra sonically cleaned and flow tested. But back to topic not sure on the bypass

dnm



I had bad experience with the stock injectors, they where seeping from around the body of the injector plastic/metal join.
they where bought from the same guy. he might have known the they were dodgy Sad
20 yrs old can be expected

dnm



https://s1089.photobucket.com/user/NIssangallery/media/20140308_130008.jpg.html

the pictures shows the leaking

Mr B

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Bypass is simply removal of resistor & the white wire feeds the four black wires.
The ECU injector controllers on GTiR are pretty much same as high impedance equipped ECU's.
I use a set of low impedance evo injectors myself but have seen modern high impedance injectors used on base GTiR ECU.

dnm



Ok, great so only takes a few minutes ?

* remove the resistor unit
* disconnect white wire that feeds the 4 black wires

thanks

18Stock ECU with High Impedance Injectors Empty Re: Stock ECU with High Impedance Injectors 15th March 2014, 10:07 pm

dnm



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19Stock ECU with High Impedance Injectors Empty Re: Stock ECU with High Impedance Injectors 15th March 2014, 11:12 pm

nomad

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Are you confiming thats the resister pack ? .... if so thats it  Wink


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Mr B

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dnm wrote:Ok, great so only takes a few minutes ?

* remove the resistor unit
* disconnect white wire that feeds the 4 black wires

thanks
The white wire is the 12V hot, it needs to feed the 4 black wires or injectors will get no power feed..
On low impedance injectors without proper ECU injector control for low impedance manufacturers add the resistor pack to keep the amp load within a limit the ECU injector control can handle. Without the resistor pack on low impedance injectors the load could be 4 to 5amps & burn the ECU injector control out
High impedance injectors pull about 0.8 to 1amp so resistor pack not needed.
Low impedance have fast response times due to speed of solenoid with fewer windings, modern high impedance has made up the gap with light weight injector parts & tight tolerance manufacture.
Worth getting fuelling checked when do any work like this as best to be sure it spot on as will save big hassle & bigger money over going the lazy root of just assuming ok ...

21Stock ECU with High Impedance Injectors Empty Re: Stock ECU with High Impedance Injectors 16th March 2014, 10:18 am

nomad

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Some good info there .... ive never really looked into injectors that much  so its always good to know in abit more detail  Cool


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johnny gtir

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Sticky that please mate

dnm



Injector Compatibility With ECU’s

injector types

Mr B

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dnm wrote:Injector Compatibility With ECU’s

injector types

GTiR does not have peak & hold injector control circuitry, it has pretty much same as all other sr20 ECU's that use high impedance injectors.
This is why they use the resistor pack as it protects the ECU switching circuitry, a proper peak & hold controller does not use a resistor pack.
Many quality stand alone mappable ECU's will allow use of high or low impedance injectors during setup.

dnm



Thanks for the helpful feedback, I'll be removing the resistor unit this weekend.  Smile 

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