anyone watch bbc3 tonight

Hats off to you scott .... its a job that alot of people wouldnt consider my friend is a fireman strangely enough name is scott i guess it goes to show all fireman are not called sam

As an ex biker, I learned very quickly that doing something silly at the wrong time and place hurt - both physically and in the wallet. The alcohol (the cause of all my crashes) usually blunted the initial pain. My mates with fond and richer parents had fully comp insurance and were rewarded for binning it with a new and more powerful bike. Most survived, although 4 died in one accident - that calmed us down very quickly.

It's made me much more aware of road conditions and other road users - I did the RAC/ACU bike course and was taught to treat everyone else on the road as a homicidal maniac who's one aim is to kill you. Driving a car as if you are on a bike has saved my bacon a number of times, but I still bang my head on the window when leaning into righthanders

I think that is what today's youngsters miss - they think that they are invulnerable in their tin boxes and know that someone else will pick up the tab - if they don't kill themselves first. Roads have got much busier, and the slightest error can have horrendous consequences.

Later on, with a company car and an increasing company insurance bill due to the sales rep carnage, I got sent on a Drive and Survive course. On that I got asked about my views of people speeding on my local roads. I said I didn't like it because of my kids' safety, so had no answer when the instructor asked why I did it to others

Since then I've been a born-again 30-ite in restricted areas. Don't ask about the motorways and open roads, though - my halo turns into horns!

Stats are not always true look at some of the old people i see on the road they are just as bad accidents waiting to happen or the amount of mobile phone users. women putting make up on etc while driving. I know some young people drive like tits think they are indestructible but there is another side they know how to use a handbrake or control a car in snow or a slide slide for example but the amount of drivers i see can not drive for shit or don't have a clue about the vehicle they own drive about with half flat tyres etc.My rant over

Totally agree I almost have or see a near miss at least twice a week.from dickheads pulling out near where I live who have money and think they own the road. To people who pull out without looking then make no attempt to accelerate

good points there
I forgor about all the bad people on the road

many times they are the dangerous ones as they have not got a clue whats going on around them and generally leave a trail of destruction in there wakes

there is a road near where a friend lives (johnny gtir might know} it its on the military road just past the robin hood pub before the corbridge turning.its a bad junction as visibility isnt great but the amount of people who pull out without looking is just incredible

know it well mate there are a few places local to us many accidents even bad ones and its all to common lucky if they even make local papers.some of the roads round here are a joke pot holes are not the word forcing even non lowered vehicles onto wrong side of the road and into the path of on coming cars a few of my mates ride motorbikes and aint even bothered mot or taxing them due to the state of the roads