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Zia's R

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26Zia's R - Page 2 Empty Re: Zia's R 12th February 2020, 9:46 pm

gtir_woody

gtir_woody
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Nice I like those wheels Smile

27Zia's R - Page 2 Empty Re: Zia's R 13th February 2020, 8:36 pm

Andy Sunny Gti

Andy Sunny Gti

Nice, what size are they? 15/16? Guessing you bought them brand new.
Had a set of 17’s on my old Sunny Gti.

28Zia's R - Page 2 Empty Re: Zia's R 14th February 2020, 6:09 am

Zia



Yep 16s et35

Zia

29Zia's R - Page 2 Empty Re: Zia's R 13th September 2020, 6:17 am

Zia



Been getting a bit of knock noise at 3k in third gear recently,nothing in fourth or fifth. just assumed it was just random, until it got a bit more louder. check on ecu logs no signs of det...

stripped bottom end off to see what was going on.
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Zia

30Zia's R - Page 2 Empty Re: Zia's R 15th September 2020, 5:48 pm

BEBB GTIR

BEBB GTIR
the one star club
the one star club

Sad oh shit

31Zia's R - Page 2 Empty Re: Zia's R 16th September 2020, 6:29 pm

Zia



right got bearings out

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See the obvious problem??

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32Zia's R - Page 2 Empty Re: Zia's R 17th September 2020, 6:21 pm

astarozna

astarozna

Are the bearings from 1 to 4 right to left?

33Zia's R - Page 2 Empty Re: Zia's R 17th September 2020, 7:14 pm

Zia



left to right no1 cylindar being the spun ones..

Zia

34Zia's R - Page 2 Empty Re: Zia's R 17th September 2020, 10:29 pm

gtir_woody

gtir_woody
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Oh yuck, has it damaged anything else? or havent gotten that far yet?

35Zia's R - Page 2 Empty Re: Zia's R 18th September 2020, 1:45 pm

astarozna

astarozna

Zia wrote:left to right no1 cylindar being the spun ones..

Zia

It's a rebuild time Very Happy . Did it happen on a street or racing? Looks like oil starvation, pump failure/ wrong oil of application, etc. Shooting from the hipp at the moment. Teardown will reveal the truth.
We all like rebuild threads with new shiney bits and pics Laughing

36Zia's R - Page 2 Empty Re: Zia's R 18th September 2020, 5:48 pm

Zia



have always drove below max rpm,and oil changed 9 months ago with decent 10/50w oil.no sign of oil pressure drop.
but this will bake your noodles

No 1 bearing width
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No 4 bearing width
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Have had the engine now for 15 years,never had it apart
previous history unkown,supposedly built by Hiteq back in the day for one of thier customers
Has a custom crank not sure but was told it was 2.2
on inspection carn't see any names on piston or crank.but defo has h beam rods and crank is not stock.
Big question is why has someone fitted 19mm gtir bearing on that crank pin when the reest are 17.if a 2.2 tomei stroker crank they should have fitted 17mm all round
someone bodged it..

37Zia's R - Page 2 Empty Re: Zia's R 19th September 2020, 7:13 am

astarozna

astarozna

Ok that is weird, a bit to wide for 19mm but i guess it bashed it a bit. Is the crank salvageable, what's the state of the conrod? At a guess the 15 year has taken its toll. Pics, pics, pics!!!

38Zia's R - Page 2 Empty Re: Zia's R 19th September 2020, 9:33 pm

Mr B

Mr B
gtir technician
gtir technician

The rod spec is what determines 17 or 19mm shell fitment .
What rods is it and what shell width they been machined for .
17mm bearings look likely good spec dry film coated .

39Zia's R - Page 2 Empty Re: Zia's R 20th September 2020, 12:07 pm

Zia



No idea if they have been machined for 19mm bearing how do you tell?

Conrod are tomei h beam i think

no 1 rod cap
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Stock 19 mm bearing installed
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unknown 17mm bearing installed
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No 1 conrod cleaned up with 600 wet and dry paper doesn't loo to bad methinks
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crank pin seem ok when you run nail across it,no deep score marks,unable to get measurement on it due to no room instu.
ordered set of acl conrod bearings
Tomei website say not to use GTIR Bearing on their stroker cranks
Zia

40Zia's R - Page 2 Empty Re: Zia's R 20th September 2020, 5:55 pm

Mr B

Mr B
gtir technician
gtir technician

tang groove has to be notched  to make a 19mm sit central in the rod .
You can clearly see they notched for 17mm bearings .

ideally that engine needs stripping as you going have metal fragments everywhere .
the main bearing oil feed grooves are great for trapping debris and debris maybe blocking bearing feeds to some extent .
I'd also want check main bearing condition and the oiling holes and slots debris free and correct 360 oiling bearings.
crank journals also need polishing at minimum .
Bottom end failures are a pain and a full strip is best way forward .
Second failure could loose crank rods and even block if unlucky, debris reaching cam oil feed bar causes rapid damage too .

41Zia's R - Page 2 Empty Re: Zia's R 20th September 2020, 6:31 pm

astarozna

astarozna

I second Mr.B, it is a bit of a mess. Since there are pretty tight tolerances i would check rods for trueness/roundness just to be on a safe side. And full steam bath for parts!

42Zia's R - Page 2 Empty Re: Zia's R 24th November 2020, 7:56 am

Zia



well i put in a set off con rod bearings..have done 600 miles and this happened Smile

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Before you say told you so.......Smile







Only have 3 rd gear and reverse :0

Zia

43Zia's R - Page 2 Empty Re: Zia's R 24th November 2020, 8:17 am

gtir_woody

gtir_woody
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Oh no! out of curiosity what were you doing when it happened? feeding it? Laughing

44Zia's R - Page 2 Empty Re: Zia's R 24th November 2020, 4:22 pm

Zia



Feeding it noo....was giving it some beans,right good thrashing so to speak engaged 4 th gear and was followed by loud bang and lots of heavy grinding noises,unable select any gear other than 3 rd.carn't remmber the last time i took gearbox out..

Zia

45Zia's R - Page 2 Empty Re: Zia's R 27th November 2020, 4:39 pm

Zia



Bye bye 4 gear will miss you violin violin

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46Zia's R - Page 2 Empty Re: Zia's R 27th November 2020, 10:16 pm

Mr B

Mr B
gtir technician
gtir technician

well at least it better than looking at cranks and rods again ... and you broke it while having fun at speed .
Good thing is you getting stuck in and box split already :-)
Hopefully broken teeth not trashed rest of it, most of ones I done had most of gears fit for scrap with bad wear/damage .
Hope you have it back together soon for another shake down :-)

47Zia's R - Page 2 Empty Re: Zia's R 28th November 2020, 6:10 pm

Zia



Thanks B,, while its out going replace clutch..not sure with what..strengthen clutch fork,change steering rack and fit my modena diff.

zia

48Zia's R - Page 2 Empty Re: Zia's R 2nd January 2021, 5:55 pm

3mpire



Wow!! Nice build 👌🏽
Goals definitely

49Zia's R - Page 2 Empty Re: Zia's R 8th January 2021, 8:49 pm

Zia



New recondtioned steering rack going in

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strengthened clutch fork

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Rebuilt greabox vapour blasted and new seals etc fitted

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[quote=]"Wow!! Nice build 👌🏽 Goals definitely"[/quote]

thanks.

zia

50Zia's R - Page 2 Empty Re: Zia's R 13th January 2021, 9:07 am

gtir_woody

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Looking good thumbsup

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