Starter issues

Having intermittent starting thought it was the starter motor so had a full refurbishment done and no difference,the solenoid clicks but won't turn over then it will be fine for 5 or 6 start ups.I can feel the relay inside the car click when it won't start is there another?all earth terminal are tight and clean battery is good so I'm now stuck any ideas would be grateful.

Not a very good refurb probably the issue, the soleniod linkages and bendix wear and former tends create your issue (tapping starter with something normally helps)
Trouble is most refurbs don't include these parts or get overlooked thus original issue pretty much still present .
Do triple check wiring visually and with multimeter drop test and solenoid signal before doing anything with starter just to be sure .

Is this easy to check with meter?I've been over all connections several times was going to take starter back out,how's the solenoid check done?

What I mentioned on solenoid is simply checking 12v solenoid signal present when key in cranking, sounds as will be as you say can here a solenoid click/clunk . Voltage drop test good idea on starter cables. Heres a link that may help
I'm 99% sure you'll find it worn sticky linkages/yoke between solenoid and starter as that what I normally find on 90% of starters with your symptoms.

Bench tested the starter over 20 times with no issues so it's back in the car.the relay for fuel pump is that also for the starter?

Make sure you have a large earth cable from body to the gearbox. Not just the little cable.

Indeed worth triple checking cables, few people had earth strap issues. easy make/fit another or do tempory test with jump lead as extra earth.
Most ones I done with no wiring issues and intermittent no crank been internal linkage selector yoke worn/sticky. Some of those tested fine on bench as movement from removal plus sitting on bench maybe different orientation which benefits linkage movement . Always good conclude cables good first as get expensive messing with starter assembly if it not the fault .

Yes I'm thinking now it's starter,battery shows 12.4v and when cranking over drops to 11.7v even if the solenoid just clicks and I hold the key in start position it's showing 11.7v drop.So to me this shows power is going to the starter.

Would putting a earth from battery to the block give a good earth?
A jump lead would be okay to use to see if there's an earthing issue?
Have you still got your earth cable from thermostat housing the the body of the car by battery tray in engine bay?

Yes all earth straps are there I tried using a jump lead,one last thing to try is disconnect the trigger wire and run a live from battery.

So with ignition on and direct live from battery to solenoid it will crank over with no problems,would this mean ignition relay playing up?

Blown fuse

Finally sorted had a friend look at it,I would of put money on it being the clifford so he bypassed that in a matter of seconds which made no difference,turns out the only earth strap I didn't clean was the problem which goes to show if you leave your car sitting in a garage not being used they don't like it.

At least it's sorted and was nothing major in the end

Keensie wrote:Finally sorted had a friend look at it,I would of put money on it being the clifford so he bypassed that in a matter of seconds which made no difference,turns out the only earth strap I didn't clean was the problem which goes to show if you leave your car sitting in a garage not being used they don't like it.

Could not agree more and a garage is better than outside but misleading to think it's in a garage it will be fine when brought out

Would like to change the clamps on battery leads too can't be that hard to do.

Is this Keensie from 2004 days grey or red R? Dammmmm

I've had the R since 2001 so yep I guess so.

Cool all these old skool owners still about.
Nice good to see you are still going strong.
Guessing a few years or the car being stored away, then the hunger is back to get things moving.

2.3 stroker?

P.s sorry for going off topic

No stroker that went tits up!where do you know me from sorry I'm not very good with names.

Haha, from the old skool gtiroc and Nissan modifiers club days.

Couple of earth straps replaced so all good and just taxed for 6mths all it needs to do now is stop rainning.

Keensie wrote:Couple of  earth straps replaced so  all good and just taxed for 6mths all it needs to do now is stop rainning.

It won't shrink in the rain you know lol