Fed up

I look at where I started off in November and never realised how much time and effort this car would consume from me .... I know people have bought some topey examples of pulsars but I think mine takes the biscuit.... Every single thing that could have gone wrong with this car has and tbh I'd be fucked if it wasn't for bob and team at torque of the south who have constantly strived to fix the car even after it kept showing more problems than any of us could have imagined !!! Yes the end result is we will probably have built Europe's quickest pulsar or extremely close to it which is an exciting thought, but it literally has drained me physically and mentally and I'm about at my ends with her .... Every "simple" task has snowballed into a small catastrophe and this has absolutely nothing to do with who's working on her, because they all have literally gone up and beyond the expected standard and they too have put so much into this... She's close to being finished but it still all feels so far away  four months of solid work has gone into this and yeah it "doesn't sound a lot" but I've literally had her on the road for two weeks without her kicking up a fuss and so it gets me thinking where does it all end ? At the power I'm going to be running every part becomes almost disposable because no 1 knows how long it will last and I can see this car getting me into financial difficulties, I'm not yet but my balance is depleting .... So in short I don't know what to do with her? Do I run her till she breaks and lose the money I've put in or do I enjoy her for a few months and then part ways? Heads been thinking like this for a little while, the missus said she would kill me if I sold her... At what point do we as pulsar owners turn round and say "enough is enough" a lot of you will read this and think I'm being overly emotional but I am drained, bob and co are drained so once again it beggars the question what do I do ? I'm gonna take a lot of stick off all of you for even thinking about selling up and you are probably right, but it's took away my positive spirit about the whole thing... Guess I will know my answer when I'm able to take her out on her first spin but till then my heads gonna keep working overtime I spose, just needed a place to put all my thoughts into words! Once again I am going to stress that bob and the team have been amazing through all of this and none of their work has fucked this car up, maybe I've been over ambitious or maybe the previous owner needs a good slap round his face for butchering the wiring amongst other things I just don't know but I get the strong feeling this car should've gone to the scrapyard instead of going to a new owner ...

Your worse than a woman in a handbag shop lmao always wishing you brought the pink D&G bag instead of the lepoard skin PRADA one! It makes no difference just get the bloody thing sorted you woman. At the end of the day this always happens with high powered cars and you just need to finish it off. You are wrapping yourself up in what ifs which is a downward spiral. Focus on what you set out for. Big power and one seriously powerful car. Dont focus on the reliability or money as lets face it that all went out the window a long time ago.

Finish it finish it finish it!

And for those of you that don't know, I'm bi-polar so a little bit of stress isn't little for me, fucks my head up in ways that I can't describe

And I know tom, should be focusing on the positives but right now I just can't :/ feel like I'm gonna explode

Just stick with it pete no point worrying or stressing over it now your to far in it to cut your losses ... it will all be worth it when you take it for your first spin .... however im totaly with you on the anxiety malarky so totaly  understand mate ... would a little cuddle help 

A little cuddle would be amazing lol ! And yeah I suppose it will guess time will tell

Chin up mate. I was going to moan that my arches still haven't arrived but I will shut up!!! You need to finish this especially as you are the only one with the mrs backing you lol

Chasing numbers always ends in tears. (Financially & mentally)
I'm in a similar situation my self. I've just put a deposit down on a house & think the pulsar will go in a few months.
I do keep thinking I will keep it as its all paid for etc but 6k looks more appealing in my bank account than sitting in the garage.
If you can afford it keep going but I 100% wouldn't get into dept over a car.
Would be nice to see it finished tho

^ +1 on that view, most people get greedy on hp then it nothing but big problems & bigger money to fix it. for most low cost 300 to 350hp is easy & not overly costly, for rest 350 to 450hp can be had without silly money if car half decent to start with & you don't cut corners & take time do build right. Also at end of day you got have something usable, many have spent thousands then strip it as end result is poor drive-ability or totally unreliable.
with age of these cars & amount that badly messed with in uk you need be super fussy with what buy to start off ...

Group hug? Once the car is done Pete, just run it a lower power than you had planned if you are worried about breaking it

thats the case with modifying any car really wether its a gtir,gtr or 911 turbo things break once you up the power and all take time unless you have bottomless pockets and can give it to someone and say heres a blank cheque make me the fastest car you can
ive owned a few high powered gtirs dont think ill do it again 300-350 is more than adequate as a road car

Just stay positive mate, I've had nothing but really bad luck too! I've owned one now for over a year and then some and still haven't drove it... be worth it in the end!

Babes, once it's done the grin on your face will give you your answer! It's frustrating I know ( I've hardly seen bob over last few months) lol but we all know the pulsar is a love hate relationship  but at least you know when you get her back practically everything would have been checked and re done, now stop being soft and go for a cruise in the escort! Don't forget the white rimmed shades!

Pete this is not good news if your getting depressed about the car now before you've even got it back
if that's how your going to let it affect you then I would sell it before it inevitably one day breaks, which it will at some stage if your going to use it for drag racing and the like.

Unfortunately ''as I said from the off'' when running big power on these cars or any car come to that its only a matter of time before something lets go and it needs fixing but that is the nature of modding and any form of motorsport.
Now that's fine if you have the money to hand to fix it or be able to carry out the work yourself but if you cant and your on a tight budget (such as yourself) then its a mistake going down that route. Now that's my honest opinion Pete as i explained from the off when you decided to go the big horses route, if you remember I said don't do it did I not? I said that as I regard you more as a friend, and knowing your predicament I tried to steer you away from the idea and for you to stick to original plan of the engine being sorted and the 2871 which you already had but then the devil in you took over and here we are today  
Many people have made that mistake in the past then realised at a later stage just how much it all costs then its a case of swallow your losses and get back what you can or see it through and chuck more money into it which you'll never ever see again, so in terms of finances its a lose lose situation.

Now to today:
As you are well aware there have been major issues with the wiring on this car and it truly has been a headache trying to find the faults, to the point where whole car was stripped back to the bare shell to find the issues causing the short curcuits (which happened to be nothing to do with any of the work we had done) but rather than turn round and say ''youll need an auto electrician to sort this one'' ive set about doing the car in the evenings to try find the electrical faults and yes what a bitch of a job its been as im sure johnny on here will verify, even he was stumped and hes far better with electrics than me with that being his trade, so with that in mind you should surely be happy that its sorted at a fraction of the cost of what it would have been had we needed to get an auto electrician in.

Another thing that has caused it to take so long is the change of plans throughout, certain work has been done / undone and new items needed sourcing and all this puts a big spanner in the works with regard to time.
I would hate to think about how many man hours have gone into this car but the huge amount of parts i.e forged engine, rebuilt quaife box with billet 3rd 4th selector, heavy duty clutch, big top mounted turbo, external wastegate etc, exhaust, cams, controllers, head porting/shimming, allie rad, brakes, management, mapping to name but a few items. Then theres hours upon hours of uncharged labour, all that for 6.5k now get a price from some other tuners / companies on that little lot and think you will be shocked at just how much this would have cost you.
Then don't forget your electrical faults have also put us back big time with all the other jobs we have booked in so now cant take any real bookings until March next year, so believe me Pete nothing would make me happier than getting your car done and out the workshop so we can get on with others that are waiting.
Anyways what you worried about as you have the Essex mobil courtesy car to whoop round in

So today ive kind of got to the brakes and machined you up some proper hubscentric spacers to space discs out correctly instead of lashing it with washers (still at work btw) but an hour wasted writing this grrrr!
Things take time Pete if you want stuff done correctly and nothing comes out  of my workshop unless im happy with it







so in a nutshell when all the final bits are done and car is finally mapped do you want me to cap power at say 420bhp?
at least that way youll have a car that should last longer as don't forget this is a used forged engine, turbo and box not built by myself so there is an element of risk attached  although engine all appears to be good when we carried out tests and visual internal examination.
just don't want you coming on here all depressed if something does go wrong


now heading for divorce as still at work writing this, be home soon clare...........................promise lol

As said Bob I spend 4k on my engine and look at what I have lol horses for corses at least the big man has put 130% into the car and it will be an awsome R.

Some people spend thousands and end up with a car on bricks. I spent 2k on a GT3071r 700cc injectors, clutch etc etc then had it mapped and it blew up in 30 minutes haha so we all know the pain
I can go on forever. Keep focused on what you want, right it down and stick to it like a gospel dont go chopping and changing ao much as ultimately it screws you and everyone else up and we end up here. Keep on track and it will be a great car

Think my point has come across a bit wrong mr Robert ! This post was definitely not a stab at you or anyone who works for you the only person I'm annoyed at is myself for buying such a bad example in the first place I should have been wiser ! Sorry if I've offended you dude like you said I consider as more than my car builder you are a genuine friend of mine and I class you as one ! And as for capping the power ? Nar! I've come this far might aswell take the beast to her potential, it would be rude not to after all this hard work! Thinks it's more a case of missing having the car than owt else, I just have these funny five minutes then return back to normal again ! And to everyone else thank you for the positive support  not easy living with a head like mine everyday but I do the best I can!!!

Chin up .
It'll be well worth it when it's done

6.5k for all that is cheap .  
I have every reciept for mine .  In 14 years we have spent 24k on it. ....  
Safe to say it will never be sold

Could always have a low and high boost setting on the apexi

6.5k....... My car will be with you tommorow Bob.
If it was my car I'd cap power at say 400hp unless it's not making touque at them figures & go out drive the thing.
Learn to drive it & then when your ready it's all there ready for more boost & silly power
Yes things will go wrong but that's part of it.
Ps I would have enjoyed checking out the wiring on that.

I know that price is amazingly cheap rob ! Think all in all I've spent about 12.5k including car but the price has never been an issue for me and didn't want it to come across that way in the slightest. I am really grateful for all the work done and I'm not sure my post came across that way though  and aron that's what I'm thinking, was gonna use low boost for day to day life then crank it up only when needed

I have had my fwd sunny with sr20ve project for 6 years, and trust me I have spent over £10k, its not even turbo charged yet.
The car has 10 pots, d2 coilovers, strut braces, hks management etc..

Now I saw this leading me into a money pit.
So 3 years ago garaged it when my son was born and its been there since.

My other priorities now come first. Family, work, etc..

I will finish the car maybe next year, but one thing, don't let the car take over or wreck your life, relationship, or get you in debt.

It's not your main car( or is it? If it is dont go for such big power for a daily), so either finish it then park it up, pause the build and come back to it, or sell up if you think you can't cope.
I am sure the later you will regret.

I was the one who always sold my previous cars and regretted it, so my current one is staying and getting finished even if it takes another 20years.

Chill out.

We all get downhearted at times! When I rebuilt my top end because cylinder number 3 turned into a swimming pool of coolant, and then once I thought it was all good, all built up with new head, all gas flowed etc as the old one was cracked, filling it with coolant, exactly the same, cylinder 3 filled with coolant due to a warped block, I weren't exactly raving about the car! But still, gritted teeth, moved on with it and got it to were it is today!

When I bought the car, it came with thousands and thousands of pounds worth of receipts, mostly from hiteq. One stood out as it was a forge build, front mount and stage one turbo., that's all now broke!..... It was 15 grand and the car produced only 309 horses too!! I think personally for that money I would have been disappointed! Deffo sounds you're onto a bargain so far with the potential it sounds like it possesses so far!

To run any sort of big power on these cars, you need to put you're hands in your pockets, and hopefully you can touch your shoes pal, deffo deep pockets required.
I would think about what running costs you may incur if wanting the big power and make sure you have the spare cash to keep it funded, I would not, as mentioned earlier, get into debt just to go extremely quick for a little bit, as realistically it will break no matter what superhero is working on them pal!
Oh, and chin up!!

How much for the box how much for the top mount manifold ? 

Joking aside or am I ?  Pete can I give you my honest opinion take a day or 2 to seriously think it over I seriously would think about capping the power and enjoying the car. It's ok saying 2 boost settings but it's sometimes hard to use the lower after driving on the higher and certain things make you think. Pushing big power will cost you another engine box and tubby in a lot shorter time. More bhp runs on par with more torque and higher boost pressure everything under more stress. Take it from someone who has drove the cars with big power and 350 is enough and if you find yourself wanting more find a tighter twisty road and you will have a lot more than 350. I know better than most this car has had a lot of man hours. Your car your choice but I would rather see you cap the power and be happy and enjoy the car and get to meets shows etc for the long term. 

Why do you think I run my cars at what I do why I ain't rushed to run big bhp I could of had 400 -500 plus years ago but instead enjoy them and sacrifice abit power for reliability. Still all of them put the same daft grin on my face for different reasons

Petelesta wrote:Think my point has come across a bit wrong mr Robert ! This post was definitely not a stab at you or anyone who works for you the only person I'm annoyed at is myself for buying such a bad example in the first place I should have been wiser ! Sorry if I've offended you dude like you said I consider as more than my car builder you are a genuine friend of mine and I class you as one ! And as for capping the power ? Nar! I've come this far might aswell take the beast to her potential, it would be rude not to after all this hard work! Thinks it's more a case of missing having the car than owt else, I just have these funny five minutes then return back to normal again ! And to everyone else thank you for the positive support  not easy living with a head like mine everyday but I do the best I can!!!

You've backed me Pete so certainly not offended me in any way
Just trying to make you aware that some things just can't be rushed and jobs that sound as though they can be done in 5 minutes can take ages, prime example being making up the spacers today well that turned into a whole evenings work because as you can see the inner hub is stepped so even more faffing about but that's the way it is. 
anything that needs modding to the extent your car has been can not be done in 5 minutes it can be a painstaking job but it's having the determination to succeed and overcome problems when they arise, that's the attitude you need to grasp 
Your a top bloke and very thoughtful with regard to others and that's a trait not had by many these days but sometimes you just have to sit back be patient and take a chill pill, lol
I know you want her back Asap but nothing's gonna make me rush the final part of this project because if mistakes are made here at this stage it can render all we've achieved over last 2 months as a waste of time and more importantly your money also.

So stop moaning, put the roof down on the Essex Mobil put the shades on then you'll look as cool on the outside as you will feel on the inside 

Worthy advice from the Geordie fella above though so think about it;)

Dont give up Pete, you won't find a car thats so unusual and such laugh to drive when it's done, and a club thats backs you 100%, keep the faith.
I'm up at 5 this morning, driving 3hrs to Leicstershire to fix mine in the rain, thats been sitting on my uncles drive for the last 3 weeks, all part of the fun.

I am just surprised you didn't give him the Rasheen as a courtesy car Bob. Maybe that's why he is pissed.
Get another one wrap it in the company logo with a standard Gtir engine inside. Lol